In this file photo, SolarWinds CEO Sudhakar Ramakrishna speaks during a Senate Intelligence Committee hearing on Capitol Hill on Tuesday, Feb. 23, 2021 in Washington. Another senior executive at SolarWinds, chief information officer Tim Brown, told a cybersecurity publication he knows of large companies that have quietly gone toe-to-toe with nation-directed hackers like the ones who hit his company. (Drew Angerer/Photo via AP) **FILE**
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