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House Speaker Mike Johnson told Republican senators behind closed doors Wednesday that he supports more funding for Ukraine if it is connected with more robust southern border security and said aid for Israel should be separate, according to lawmakers in the room.
The meeting offered the Louisiana Republican his first opportunity to officially introduce himself to Senate Republicans amid party divisions over tying aid for Israel and Ukraine to a broader national security package.
Mr. Johnson emphasized the challenges with navigating divisions in his conference and doubled down on his position that a piecemeal strategy to President Biden’s requested Israel and Ukraine funding is the only way the House can pass legislation, Republican senators said.
Sen. Roger Marshall, Kansas Republican, said if Mr. Johnson combines the funding, then House Republicans “would revolt, and it would probably be the end of his speakership.”
Republican senators said Mr. Johnson reassured them, including those who oppose his tactic on Ukraine funding, that he is successfully navigating the obstacles within his conference.
“He made it very clear that he understands how critical Ukraine aid is. I felt that he was trying to be helpful,” said Sen. Mike Rounds, South Dakota Republican. “He was trying to find a path forward, and I came away encouraged with the fact he is pragmatic in recognizing that we have a different way of looking at it. He’s going to have to find common ground with us, recognizing we have to have 60 votes in the Senate to do anything.”
The House is expected to narrowly approve a stand-alone bill Thursday to provide $14.3 billion for Israel, using money from the IRS’s boosted budget under the Democrats’ Inflation Reduction Act that Mr. Biden signed last year.
Passage will likely be razor thin with Mr. Johnson’s four-seat majority. At least two Republicans, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia and Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky, oppose more foreign aid to any country because of U.S. debt. Meanwhile, Democrats reject the IRS cuts and want the overall funding tied to Ukraine.
Mr. Biden, congressional Democrats and Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, Kentucky Republican, oppose separating the aid. They argue that the Senate will require a bipartisan package that includes aid for Israel, Ukraine, southern border security and the Indo-Pacific region and humanitarian assistance for the Gaza Strip. They say it’s the only way to overcome the Senate’s 60-vote threshold.
Mr. Biden has requested a $106 billion package, but Senate Republicans say the proposed border measures would fail to stop the unprecedented surge of illegal crossings. Senators are working on a dueling comprehensive proposal.
Mr. McConnell’s support of a broad package has irked fellow Republican senators. Some say Mr. McConnell’s position is undercutting Mr. Johnson’s efforts to unify House Republicans because it mirrors that of Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer, New York Democrat, and Mr. Biden.
“There’s questions about the dynamics, which are different in each chamber. I think it’s really important for us to be respectful of that,” said Sen. Eric Schmitt, Missouri Republican. “I would hope my Senate Republican colleagues would afford him that opportunity, as opposed to sort of joining forces with Chuck Schumer to undermine him.”
Mr. Johnson fielded questions from Senate Republicans about various topics during their private meeting, including foreign aid and government funding as Congress approaches a Nov. 17 deadline to avert a partial government shutdown.
The speaker said he prefers to pass a stopgap funding measure to run through Jan. 15 so lawmakers can finish the annual budget for fiscal 2024, according to senators. They said he favored a 1% cut in any spending bill.
Mr. Johnson said the House Republicans arrived at the IRS cuts to pay for the Israel aid because it was a readily available tranche of money that could easily be reduced. He noted that House Republicans uniformly opposed the extra money for the IRS in the first place. The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office published an analysis Wednesday predicting that the slashed funds would add $12.5 billion to the deficit over the next decade because of $26.8 billion in tax enforcement losses.
Republicans dismissed the analysis as inaccurate.
Mr. Johnson was escorted from the House to the Senate before the meeting by Republican Sens. Rick Scott of Florida and Ron Johnson of Wisconsin. Both side with Mr. Johnson over Mr. McConnell’s approach to foreign aid.
“If we want to get things done, we have to support a Republican majority in the House,” said Mr. Scott, who ran an unsuccessful challenge against Mr. McConnell this year to become Republican leader. “The speaker leads that effort, so I’m going to do everything I can to support him — not undermine him.”
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